DISQUS

Collision Detection: collision detection: At Amherst college, 1% of first-year students have landlines, 99% have Facebook accounts

  • Rob Snark · 1 year ago
    "Granted, the landline result is no doubt skewed by the fact that students who are only spending eight months a year on campus are less likely to get a personal landline in the first place, even absent the existence of mobile phones. But still, it’s a pretty remarkable death knell for a technology."

    Given the importance of technology in the modern age, I believe this calls for a government financial rescue plan for the land line telephone industry. A package in the tens of billions of dollars is appropriate. And it's vitally important that we hand over this money by the end of next week, or else all telecommunications may cease to function.
  • AmbroseKalifornia · 1 year ago
    That's so not funny that it's gone back around to being funny.
  • Chad · 1 year ago
    Nearly all of the published political polls are done via land line.
  • Clive · 1 year ago
    Rob, AmbroseKalifornia, indeed -- I weep as a I laugh.

    Chad, yeah, the polling industry has been grappling with the mobile-phone question for some time now. I wonder where they're at with it now? Still ignoring it and hoping it'll go away? Or figuring that, as far as politics goes, political polls still strive to capture the opinions mostly/only of "likely voters", who tend to be older and thbus tend to have land lines?
  • Dan · 1 year ago
    At 40, I'm old and not to be trusted, but still a trendsetter.

    I abandoned my landline in 2000 and haven't looked back.

    Though it stands to reason that polling data will skew older because it fails to account for the switch, it would be a mistake to think that this only takes place with people in their teens or twenties.
  • Clive · 1 year ago
  • anon · 1 year ago
    The University of Nebraska just announced that it will no longer be standard for them to provide landlines for students and nearly every incoming freshman just uses a cell phone.
  • Clive · 1 year ago
    Wow!
  • Ken Oswalt · 1 year ago
    University of Oklahoma did that last year. Instead, students get cable tv.
  • Apple · 1 year ago
    No such thing as an iTouch... it's called an iPod Touch.
  • Ben · 1 year ago
    "Likelihood that a student with an iPhone/iTouch is in the class of 2012: approximately 1 in 2."

    This should be the other way around. If half the kids with an iPhone/iTouch were in Amherst's class of 2012 they would have some real problems. Should be...

    Likelihood that a student in class fo 2012 has an iPhone/iTouch: approx 1in 2.
  • Clive · 1 year ago
    I took his original meaning to be:

    - There are X number of students at Amherst with an iPhone/IpodTouch.
    - 1/2(X) of these students are in the class of 2012.

    (Though it's true that his grammar wasn't precise, that's how I took his meaning!)

    Your formulation is:

    - Number of students in the Amherst class of 2012: 438
    - 50% of these students have an iPhone/IpodTouch, for a total of: 219

    Since in the first example X could be larger or smaller than 438, the two equations yield different results.

    I think I wrote this post just to fulfill my monthly quota of weird algebra.
  • Staci · 1 year ago
    The Facebook stat is probably a little skewed -- it's possible that members of earlier classes joined the 2012 group to pander to freshmen. Did (whoever posted that stat) check to make sure that every member of that group was actually an Amherst freshman? I'm personally in the 2012 group for my school, and I'm definitely 2011. The landline/desktop stat sounds about right -- the only ones who would bring a desktop are those who need the gaming power. Soon, even that won't be necesary as laptop technology improves.
  • Tim · 1 year ago
    I wonder - are all five of the landlines in the small group of incoming freshmen who do not have Facebook accounts?

    My uncle went to Amherst but in his day I bet they didn't offer landlines to individual students, you probably used a shared landline somewhere in the dorm.
  • David · 1 year ago
    ancient Amherst grad here.....no land lines in dorms; of course no computers, etc.

    however, the absence of technology allowed us to spend our time protesing the Vietnam war....in person, en masse

    why aren't more students actively getting out into the "physical" community to show their feelings about issues these days? This was an effective strategy in influencing lawmakers (who generally are not participating in the online community today)
  • Kat Tancock · 1 year ago
    I bet the landlines are for kids whose parents signed them up - and/or aren't paying for their iPhone bills. :)

    Can anyone comment on how representative Amherst students are of the general student body in the US and other countries? Richer, poorer, smarter, etc.?
  • David · 1 year ago
    my conclusion regarding Amherst is that while educational, intellectual and motivational levels are very high, the economic and racial factors are more diverse than what might be anticipated for an Eastern liberal arts private college (see study below)

    in 2007:

    86% in top 10% of HS class

    acceptance: 6000+ applicants, 19% acceptance rate; 433 freshman slots
    75% have combined SAT scores 1330 -1530

    according to www.diverseeducation.com:

    "Dr. Elizabeth Aries, a professor of psychology at Amherst College, studied 58 of the 432 students entering the college in the 2005-2006 year, using online questionnaires and personal interviews.......

    At the time, she notes, one-third of the freshman class were “self-identified students of color,” 12 percent were the first in their families to go to college and 47 percent received some financial aid (on average $28,000) toward the $40,000 a year tuition. She notes that the college devotes a great deal of money and effort into assembling a student body that is diverse by economics, race, ethnicity, gender, religion and other factors — largely in the hopes that students will learn to live together in a harmonious society and contribute to it. "

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  • Wendy Warnecke · 1 year ago
    Adding to the "I don't need a landline I have a cell phone" trend ... my daughter : "I don't need a watch my cell phone has the time."
  • Chris Grayson - GigantiCo · 1 year ago
    Yes, well, I'm just under 40 and it surprises me how many in my own demographic no longer wear a watch because their cell-phone shows the time. I first started hearing people say this about 10 years ago when I was in my late 20s just as cellphones had become completely ubiquitous among my peers (Motorola StarTek anyone?).

    This always surprised me with men especially, as a nice wristwatch is one of the few masculine jewelry accessories for men.
  • Scott Mahler · 1 year ago
    It isn't just college kids, although I am in college and far from a kid, everybody I know in my age group is on the same route. Even my parents, who are in their 60s, only use their landline for "emergencies."
  • spencer · 1 year ago
    fascinating. great blog. i will stay tuned.